Comments on: Migrating from GroupWise: A Costly Decision http://www.adaris.ca/d-collaboration/migrating-from-groupwise-a-costly-decision/ IT consulting: Microsoft, Novell, , NetIQ Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:17:43 +0000 hourly 1 By: in chennai for wedding|wedding photographers in chennai|good wedding photographers chennai|professional wedding photographers in chennai|best wedding photographers chennai|professional photographers for wedding in chennai|chennai based wedding photographe http://www.adaris.ca/d-collaboration/migrating-from-groupwise-a-costly-decision/#comment-5984 Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:20:05 +0000 http://www.adaris.ca/?p=1299#comment-5984 At this moment I am going away to do my breakfast, when having my breakfast coming yet again to read more news.|

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By: non-profit2012 http://www.adaris.ca/d-collaboration/migrating-from-groupwise-a-costly-decision/#comment-645 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:28:21 +0000 http://www.adaris.ca/?p=1299#comment-645 We are a non-profit, so we have always been behind 1 or 2 versions mostly because lack of funds but also because we were able to get $75,000 worth of Novell software for only a couple of grand in a three year cycle donation through Gifts in Kind. Last time we upgraded to GW 7, GW 8 came out a few months after so we were able to obtain it because of software assurance.

This year we want to upgrade the email server and decided to research staying with GW or migrating to Exchange. We decided to stay a couple of more years with GW 8 mostly because there are other expenses we are incurring as we are merging multiple sites, but if this has not been the case we will be migrating. Why? One license of Groupwise cost $86 while one license of Exchange cost $2 through non-profit channels. I hope that in a couple of years they bring the program back and we will be able to keep GW.

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By: geek49203 http://www.adaris.ca/d-collaboration/migrating-from-groupwise-a-costly-decision/#comment-644 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:52:46 +0000 http://www.adaris.ca/?p=1299#comment-644 From my linkedin post:

The last few years I’ve been the guy hired to migrate GW to Exchange. Some observations:

1. No ROI. Chances are the customer is gonna do the same things with Exch as they did with GW (email and calendar), and not utilize the full features of either one. When all is said and done, lots of money is spent, lots of human hours spent ($$) and lots of chaos happened, and everyone is doing the same thing, albeit with a different interface.

The only times a migration makes sense is if you have different platforms for the same company or government, etc., or have a specific application that demands one system (and no, Sharepoint is NOT such an app).

2. Neither system runs well w/o trained admin staff. Neither system runs well w/o trained users. In school systems, no one wants to go for training, and in most places, no one wants to pay for it. This is not fixed with a migration.

3. In all cases, you’re migrating from a neglected GW system to a new shiny Exch system. Well, in 10 years, guess what the new Exch system is gonna look like if they give it the same level of care?

4. Let’s face it — email can be easily outsourced to an offsite company. My bet is that the next round of email migrations will be to outsource the email, in the same way that companies outsource voice mail.

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By: Karine Lachapelle http://www.adaris.ca/d-collaboration/migrating-from-groupwise-a-costly-decision/#comment-643 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:17:30 +0000 http://www.adaris.ca/?p=1299#comment-643 Effectivement Jacques, tu as raison, il y a beaucoup de coûts additionnels sous-évalués lorsqu’un client délaisse Groupwise. Que ce soit des coûts directs (licenses), indirects (plus de serveurs = +énergie + espace) ou facteur humain (heures supplémentaires, formation) ils sont souvent sous-évalués ou ignorés dès le départ. J’ai connu des compagnies ou des organismes qui ont fait le saut et ce fut beaucoup plus couteux et périlleux que prévu. Le hic c’est qu’ils ne veulent pas qu’on en parle… Qui se vanterait d’un mauvais coup ou de dépenses beaucoup plus élevées (surtout s’il s’agit d’un organisme obtenant ses fonds des contribuables…)?…

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